Peter Slipper elected Deputy Speaker

LNP Member for Fisher, Peter Slipper, has been elected Deputy Speaker by 78 votes to 71 in a secret ballot. Fisher, whose electorate is next door to former Coalition whip and Deputy Speaker contender Alex Somylay’s, was nominated by the Labor party. The Coalition nominated Bruce Scott.

Update: Tony Crook says he voted for Bruce Scott, so that means that one other Coalition member voted for Slipper.

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61 responses to “Peter Slipper elected Deputy Speaker”

  1. Paul Burns

    If I’ve got my numbers right all the Independants voted against Abbott’s candidate. Message to Tones: that stuff on your face is more egg.

  2. Terry

    I think Tony is going to want to sink the slipper into someone.

  3. Sam

    Assuming Slipper voted for himself, someone else from the coalition did too.

  4. Tyro Rex

    What does this mean, I wonder? Will he pair?

  5. Terry

    Maybe Slipper has long harboured an urge to tell Christopher Pyne to STFU in public – a completely understandable human impulse – and now he’s got a job that gives him the authority to do so.

  6. Paul Burns

    It seems he may have agreed to pair. So said ch 10 and one press report. But another press report said he wouldn’t. Guess we’ll know soon enough.

  7. Kim

    @3 Jenkins didn’t vote so the assumption is that 71 alp + all 4 Indies + Bandt + Crook + Slipper is the 78 votes.

  8. Diogenes

    You’re right,Sam, there’s a rat in the ranks. But now that I think about it, there are many rats in that rank.

  9. Sam

    Interesting that Katter and Crook voted with the government. The majority might not be so razor thin, at least some of the time, after all.

  10. Terry

    Katter has always been clear that he doesn’t support Tony Abbott per se, but that there are particular policy issues where he is unable to go with the Gillard Govt, and his electorate don’t support. He certainly has no interest in Tony Abbott’s destabilisation campaign, and quite likes some Govt. ministers, notably Rudd and Swan.

  11. Brian62

    Now what is required is for Mr Slipper to demonstrate to the voting public he is a man of substance and is obliged to do what is right, hold Abbott to his word and honor the pairing deal,I’d pay money to see Abbotts face collapse,go on Peter make every ones day and say it slowly.

  12. FMark

    According to ABC as of now, Slipper will pair (bring on the puns):

    The row over pairing also came to the fore when Government frontbencher Simon Crean accused the Opposition of refusing to pair ahead of his address to the National Press Club tomorrow.

    The Opposition now says he will be paired, but the Government wants a guarantee in writing.

    Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Mr Abbott have already traded blows in the chamber and will face each other for the first Question Time tomorrow.

  13. Kim

    the Government wants a guarantee in writing.

    And supportive legal advice from Brandis? You need that as well now, don’t you, as well as Tony’s signature?

  14. p.a.travers

    Am I allowed to be bored,or is that a state of revolutionary mind!?

  15. FMark

    Oops, I think I misunderstood that quote. The oppositions commitment to give Crean a pair tomorrow for a speech at the Press Club is unrelated to the deputy-speakership.

  16. Ram

    Liberal MP Peter Slipper tipped to reject Labor offer for Deputy Speaker role
    From: The Australian September 27, 2010 5:48PM

    Nuff said.

  17. Hal9000

    I think you’ve misinterpreted the words here, FMark. It’s Crean who is being paired, not Slipper or Jenkins.

    FWIW, I think Abbott has badly misjudged this, although Labor has been pissweak in pointing it out. Why oh why hasn’t a single senior Labor figure uttered the obvious line ‘you can’t trust him even if he puts it in writing’?

    At any event, Abbott’s really antagonised all the independents, including Katter, who was you might remember also a signatory to the 22 point deal. Abbott has exposed himself as a barefaced liar – something that hasn’t been news to anyone who has paid attention to his career, but most voters haven’t. Abbott’s attempts to back up his patent opportunism with an opinion from Brandis must have caused considerable mirth in legal circles. Brandis’s sole claim to intellectual depth is his alleged (and denied) authorship of the ‘lying rodent’ nickname for John Howard.

    Meanwhile, denying pairs is also going to hurt Abbott’s troops, who won’t be able to go off on the junkets that make life in politics worthwhile. The Government has control of the Parliamentary agenda, so if an opposition member or two are off gallivanting they are quite capable of bringing on debate on some controversial legislation to take advantage of a temporary majority. The opposition has no such ability to control events. The Government, in extremis, can also prorogue the Parliament, giving itself time and also wiping clean the notice paper.

    The Speaker is also vested with considerable powers, petty and significant, over members’ lives, offices and administrative support as well as interpretation of standing orders and advising the GG about votes of confidence and by-elections. Abbott’s perfidious behaviour has ensured that those powers are in Labor’s hands. None of this will be lost on the half of his party who supported Turnbull.

    Most voters probably don’t care too much about the details of political shenanigans in Canberra, but do want the politicians to get on with it. Transparent attempts to overturn the result of the election won’t go down well at all, and polling is starting to show just that.

  18. john

    I’ve heard rumours that the Nats want his seat. He’s gone next time.

  19. Fiona Reynolds

    Kim, I’m not quite sure how Mr Slipper’s election can be characterised as a defection.

  20. Hal9000

    It’s a matter of some interest that all the great political defectors of the federal parliament in living memory have been Queenslanders: Albert Patrick Field, Mal Colston, and now seemingly Peter Slipper. Katter himself continues a long tradition of Queensland defectors from major parties establishing themselves as maverick independents, including Bill Hartwig and Tom Aikens among others. I’m not stating any kind of thesis here, but there does seem to be some sort of pattern.

  21. Hal9000

    Fiona @20 – it’s hard to see how it’s anything else – standing against the official candidate – and winning with the support of the other side – is not the act of a loyal footsoldier. This was precisely the path Mal Colston trod, and for pretty much the same appointment.

  22. Fiona Reynolds

    Kim and Hal9000, I’m not playing devil’s advocate here – but it is at least plausible that the Government decided to nominate Mr Slipper as (potentially) the weak/er/est link in order to embarrass Mr Abbott. Apparently, an MP cannot refuse the nomination – hence the ancient practice of dragging the “unwilling” nominee to the (deputy) chair.

    Moreover, Mr Slipper has some history – and here I am going with my memory, so apologies for no link – I think he was acting deputy speaker and the opposition moved a motion of dissent to one of his rulings.

    Then again – on the other other other hand – if he doesn’t want to be paired, he could always find himself incommoded in the disabled loo again…

  23. adamite

    ‘there’s are many rats in that ranks.’

    You could say they’re a pack of rank rats led by a feral rabbit.

  24. Fiona Reynolds

    Kim, that makes you even more cynical than moi, and that’s saying something 😉

  25. Hal9000

    It seems rather unlikely to me that Slipper’s nomination was a spur of the moment thing. If it’s the case that his preselection is in danger, then the last thing he’ll want is to bring on an election. As you say, the disabled loo, or the gammy leg that Ray Connor claimed prevented him from voting in the hung State Parliament of 1997, may well prevent him from attending at crucial moments. At any event, Slipper has already been visited by the Abbott gestapo, and has clearly given Tony the bird in response. Abbott won’t be able to rely on him, and that for all intents and purposes is what counts.

  26. Fiona Reynolds

    Hal9000, I am sure that Slipper’s nomination was anything but a spur of the moment matter on the part of the government, but something that was deliberately mounted to get in Abbott’s face.

    As you say – the result is all that matters. One thing I would like to know, however, is whether the deputy Speaker gets a salary hike above that of the ordinary MP and, if so, whether that has any bearing on superannuation entitlements.

  27. Hal9000

    Yes and yes. And also more staff, a fact that Mal Colston used to put his family on the payroll. Slipper pre-dates the Latham amendments to Parliamentary super, so it will be a nice little earner for him for the rest of his days.

  28. Andrew E

    Slipper is one of the last veterans of the Howard-Peacock wars, having outlasted both, not to mention the Joh Nationals. Look at how much fun Billy Snedden had at the expense of Malcolm Fraser and ask yourself whether sneering and snarling from Abbott will count for three-fifths of whatever. He’s crafty and he’s forgotten more of the Standing Orders than Abbott or Chris Pyne have ever learned. Abbott had no right to look so shocked at such an utterly foreseeable outcome.

    He’s perfectly free to go on his junkets – he’s got his pair.

    Bugger the Nats, John, and come on home Mal Brough.

  29. Fiona Reynolds

    and come on home Mal Brough

    Ah yes, the next Liberal PM is not currently an MP… (besides, that would make JWH just so terriby cwoss).

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I wouldn’t have thought that $28K would swing it, myself, Kim – but as Andrew E rightly points out, Slippery Pete has street cred in spades.

  30. jane

    ……there are many rats in that rank.

    And the rats in the rank are as rank as they come, Diogenes @8.

    ….the Government wants a guarantee in writing.

    FMark @12, just who will be the signatories for this guarantee, I wonder? Have they learned nothing from the last couple of weeks?

  31. Fascinated

    I listened hard to Lord Weasel’s reply to the PowerFox (after Harry’s re-elevation). The Weasel is still in election mode, angling to be the ordinary man’s champion. He needs to remember what has happened to other prize fighters. The Slip just didn’t win the round, he winded him badly. Lord Weasel is glaringly abroad.

  32. Brian

    Have a look at what Windsor said to Kerry O’Brien:

    KERRY O’BRIEN: There’s been a certain amount of angst from Independents about Mr Abbott’s decision to back away from one of the 22 points of parliamentary reform that he had earlier agreed to. Twenty one out of 22’s not bad, is it?

    TONY WINDSOR: Well, 22 out of 22 is better. And I think it reflects not well on Tony Abbott.

    I think he’s made a tactical error here and the fact that- though I won’t declare how I voted today but it looks as though all six of the crossbenchers – even those that were supportive of Tony Abbott in terms of formation of the Government – voted as one today in relation to the deputy Speakership.

    And I think that might be partly due to people saying they weren’t comfortable with an agreement being struck and then being torn up and then – you know, don’t expect people just to return to the fold if you keep going down that track.

    he came to an agreement with the Labor Party and the crossbenchers over certain procedural rules and he’s… varied that agreement, to be kind to him.

    These bits of paper are essentially worth nothing.

    But I don’t think he can expect people to rush back to the fold and say ‘We’re right with you, Tony, because we trust you in the future and whatever you say in the future will be something that we’ll trust’.

    he’s made a decision I think that the quickest way to get out of this bind is to go straight through the door and not open it.

    I like his style.

  33. Brian

    I can’t be sure, but I remember it being said a little while ago that this is Slipper’s last gig, that he wasn’t intending to run next election.

  34. Razor

    ooooooh – that was tricky.

    nya nya nya nya.

  35. Katz

    Update: Tony Crook says he voted for Bruce Scott, so that means that one other Coalition member voted for Slipper.

    Fear not, Mr Abbott will find the ring leaders of this mutiny.

  36. Patricia WA

    What I enjoyed here was seeing Julia and team on the attack in this first vote of the session. It was a nice shot across Abbot’s bows, showing him she can quietly muster enough votes to thwart his plans. I loved the surprise on Opposition faces!

    It cried out for a ‘pome’ which I’ve just posted at Cafe Whispers.

  37. Fine

    I reckon it was Turnbull.

  38. Brian62

    Fine @42 Hope your right, Turnbull would likely have an interest in making this parliament work to establish his role as a stable, kinder gentler alternative to the Rabid Rabbit all he has to do is sit and pounce at the right time in the not to distant future.

  39. JM

    Fine says:
    September 29, 2010 at 9:24 am

    I reckon it was Turnbull.

    I’m with Fine on that observation. Turnbull was bailed up for a door-stopper on the question of Slipper’s perceived disloyalty soon after the vote. His whole body language oozed satisfaction as he made some throw-away remark about feeling kindly disposed towards all of his Coalition colleagues.

    I also suspect Albo has had this one simmering on the stove for a while.

    Apparently even the Labor Caucus did not know.

    If Labor can keep up this level of discipline while the Libs shoot themselves serially in both feet, we may be looking at a 90 seat majority next elections provided the Libs keep Abbott as Leader.

  40. Lefty E

    “Update: Tony Crook says he voted for Bruce Scott, so that means that one other Coalition member voted for Slipper.”

    It gets even better!

  41. rumrebellious

    Well I think we can rule out Somlyay.

    For those that are interested, this caught my eye.

    Wellington could win the seat of his choosing on the sunshine coast. Funny enough, Katter’s dreams of a bevy of independents could becoming true.

  42. Sam

    Slipper is now vehemently denying that he is about to jump ship and join the Labor Party.

    This can mean only one thing.

    It’s a done deal.

    Welcome, Comrade Slipper.

  43. Paul Burns

    Sam, your cynicism is breathtaking. And I have no doubt you’re right.

  44. Incurious and Unread

    Will Slipper announce his defection, or will he be a sleeper?

  45. Sam

    Sam, your cynicism is breathtaking

    I have a PhD in cynicism.

  46. David Irving (no relation)

    Katz, I guess someone’s been eating all the strawberry ice cream …

  47. joe2

    “Amid reports Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has warned colleagues not to drive Mr Slipper out of the Liberal Party,..”

    This little bit from AAP says it all, really.

  48. Chris

    Kim @ 35 – the interesting thing with secret ballots is no one really knows if Tony Crook did vote for Bruce Scott. He may just be playing with Abbott’s mind 🙂

  49. David Irving (no relation)

    The thing that still eludes me, though, is how, having just shown a level of rat-cunning that’d put John Howard to shame, the ALP ran such a shitty election campaign even after telling the NSW right to stfu.

  50. Fine

    Abbott’s gung-ho aggression can work well for the short time frame of an election campaign. It can seem fresh and exciting. But, it’s not effective over the long term of a parliament in which strategic wiliness is needed. Gillard has always had Abbott’s measure psychologically in the past. She blew it in the election, which may have something to do with the specific weirdness of that particular election.

  51. Brian62

    Rumrebellios @46 Well spotted,sounds like my kinda Polly.

  52. Jesterette

    I suspect the renegade vote is Somylay, who didn’t stand after Abbott reneged on the reforms that he, as opposition whip, had helped negotiate. I heard an ABC radio interview with him yesterday morning, and given his tone then, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least, particularly considering he is in Slipper’s neighbouring electorate.

  53. joe2

    Surely, as someone mentioned earlier, Slipper voted for himself and that explains the extra vote.

  54. Dave McRae

    joe2, Coalition has 73 lower house votes if one included Crook – 71 voted as instructed – 2 extra votes – we’re assuming 1 is Slipper’s, we’ve still got little idea where the extra 1 of the two came from

  55. joe2

    Thanks Dave. Now I get it, I think.

  56. rumrebellious

    Cheers Brian!

    Doubt that Jesterette, Somlyay and Slipper are famous for their non-agreeableness. I thought what I was saying was a bit of a self-evident joke.

    But Mr Somlyay, who last week appeared to be on the brink of a similar deal with Labor but then backed out, accused Mr Slipper of not acting honourably.

    “I tried to do it in an honourable and dignified way but it didn’t work out,” he said.

    “He did it differently than what I did, and I don’t think he did do it honourably or in a dignified way.”