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19 responses to “Spotlight the Spin”

  1. joe2

    I heard Jon Faine run the line that if it had been Labor sent into opposition Gillard would have likely done just what Abbott did and dishonour that part of an agreement, with the indys, on the pairing of a speaker.

    This extraordinary assumption nicely spins away Abbott’s failure to stick to a firm deal that that he personally signed up to. And provides a bonus excuse for the Liberals who were happy to just pretend they walked away from it for constitutional concerns.

  2. pablo

    The Delhi Commonwealth games preparations as an excuse for an orgy of western supremacist chest beating. Poor India faced with an admittedly problematic site completion and severe monsoon flooding, then has to suffer the bleatings of sports officionados right in the middle of Sydney’s ‘ten years after’ celebrations of ‘the greatest games ever’.
    Ok Australia wasn’t the only offender, but the poor suffering public has to put up with this media rubbish every other year from the naive sports stars and the despised hangers on. Truely what relevance is it to quote the odious John Coates of the ‘olympic league of officialdom’ on the supposedly obvious short-comings of his Commonwealth games counterparts?
    Those bloggers old enough to remember Arthur Tunstall of the old empire games days might be nostalgic for a bit of straight jabbing from the old boxer. He wouldn’t have worried about the odd busted toilet, terrorist wannabe or a snake in his bedroom. And neither should we beyond all reason.

  3. Tosca

    @2 Pablo.

    The bridge collapse at the Delhi Games site reminded me of the collapse of the pedestrian bridge at the 1997 Maccabiah Games in Tel Aviv. That incident resulted in some 100 of the 373 strong Australian Delegation, who were marching into the Ramat Gan Stadium in Tel Aviv for the Opening Ceremony, falling about 8 metres into the highly-polluted Yarkon River; the polluted waters were considered a major factor in the deaths of the four Australians and sixty others who were injured and maimed for life.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabiah_bridge_collapse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Maccabiah_Games

    In Canberra about 6 weeks ago a new extension to a bridge structure over the dual carriage Barton Highway collapsed during a concrete pour. There were no fatalities but a number of workers sustained serious injuries.

    To my knowledge there was no cross referencing in the media of these or similar construction debacles with what occurred at the Delhi Games site. You are spot on in your observation about an “orgy of western supremacist chest beating”.

  4. pablo

    Tosca @ 3
    Yes the bridge collapse at the Jewish Games was dreadful, particularly for Australian participants, Delhi and Canberra touch wood.
    Revelations on ABC media watch last night of a Ch 7 expose of Delhi ill-preparedness for bomb threats is a story of ‘absolute media spin’.

  5. joe2

    “World’s richest man says NBN too costly.”


    Aunty is at it again. We are apparently meant to believe the spin that because someone is a really, really rich they actually know what they are talking about.

    Even when they just happen to spout the same crap as the opposition about the wonders of some non-existing super wireless dream technology over fibre…. that can be installed and used straight away.

  6. Brian

    joe2 @ 5, that guy seemed all over the place. I don’t think he realises that the NBN will replace the fixed line phone network.

  7. moz

    joe2, it’s especially good because the rich dude made his money by owning most of the telecoms infrastructure in Mexico. For some reason he doesn’t like the idea of government-funded competition to his business… whodathunkit? I’m also impressed that no-one has mentioned exactly how he came by his local monopoly.

  8. joe2

    Brian, I think he was filled with a large, liberal, plate of offal and a bottle of Krug and let loose on the press.

    However, if you listened to demolition man Turnbull, last night on Lateline, in comparison, he sounded like a genius.


    TONY JONES: OK, I’m sorry we’re out of time. Malcolm Turnbull, many questions to ask about that. They’ll have to wait for another time when you’ve developed your policy more fully.

    Indeed. I don’t think Mal realises the NBN will replace the fixed line phone network, either. He is certainly spinning that way.

  9. Brian

    joe2, Carlos Slim Helu talks of 7 million homes to be connected, a take-up rate of 70%. The McKinsey report, from memory, nominated 80% as the absolute minimum. If you think who would not use the connection which will be made in any case, it would have to be people who don’t want a fixed line phone connection AND don’t want access to the internet. I reckon that’s just about nobody.

    Then he’s taking $49 billion as the cost of the roll-out.

    Mal can’t be excused for not knowing anything. I think he’s spinning lies.

  10. joe2

    Mal was caught out last night, Brian, and looked very grumpy about it.

  11. Incurious and Unread

    The ABC article goes on to say (at the bottom)

    Delving briefly into Australian domestic politics, Mr Slim says he believes a tax on carbon is essential.

    (as though the NBN is not domestic politics)

    So, maybe the headline should have read:

    “World’s richest man says carbon tax essential”

  12. joe2

    Yes, Incurious and Unread, those words from Sue Lannin are quite extraordinary. What planet is she on when Slim spouts lines straight out of the liberal choir book and she imagines them apolitical?

    She must have relegated his comments on a carbon tax, that you rightly suggest might have been the headline, to the end of the piece because it would have meant she needed to get an opposition spokesmen to comment, for balance sake.

  13. Diogenes

    From this mornings SMH:

    Slim also said fibre was not enough and the government should invest in mobile, wireless, cable and copper networks as well.

    In response, Senator Conroy’s spokeswoman said it was clear Slim had not read the government’s NBN implementation study. It would be forwarded to him.

    I wouldn’t waste the cost of an envelope and stamps, Senator.

  14. Incurious and Unread


    it would have meant she needed to get an opposition spokesmen to comment, for balance sake.

    But the article contains no balancing comment from the government on the NBN.

    Perhaps the ABC considered that the “balance” came from reporting Slim’s carbon tax position.

  15. Diogenes

    Also, the size of Mexico is 1,972,550 sq km compared to Australia’s 7,692,024 sq km and Mexico’s neighbour, the US, is 9.83 million sq km. That’s why it will be expensive, Carlos Slim. Size dictates the cost.

    Lack of wisdom certainly outweighs wealth in his case.

  16. Incurious and Unread

    Lack of wisdom certainly outweighs wealth in his case.

    I doubt it. Slim is probably just “talking his book”. See Moz @7

  17. joe2

    It was me being a bit tongue in [email protected], and obviously obscure, incurious. Aunty plays these games constantly with all sorts of reports that almost always run to Liberal advantage.

    At least in this case we know who reported and slanted. Usually we have no name to the piece that pretends to just report the news.

  18. Gummo Trotsky

    The Oz puts a “skeptic” friendly spin on the Royal Society’s latest report on climate science:

    THERE are gaps in scientific understanding making predicting the extent of climate change and sea level rises impossible.

    That’s the claim of Britain’s highest scientific authority, the Royal Society.

    Elsewhere on same web-site, you’ll find the Royal Society’s report described as “Spin free“. Here’s a little of what the Society’s report has to say about predicting future climate:

    As with almost any attempts to forecast future conditions, projections of future climate change depend on a number of factors. Future emissions due to human activity will depend on social, technological and population changes which cannot be known with confidence. The underlying uncertainties in climate science and the inability to predict precisely the size of future natural climate forcing mechanisms mean that projections must be made which take into account the range of uncertainties across these different areas.

    With that caveat in place, the report actually goes on to mention IPCC projections of a temperature increase by 2100 of between 1.8 and 7.1C, continuing sea level rise of at least 20cm per century and other fun stuff.

  19. Brian

    It’s very strange that the Oz and the Opposition should take comfort from the Royal Society report. It’s pretty much straight down the line IPCC AR4 WG1. Climate sensitivity, the temperature change from the doubling of CO2 is seen as “likely to lie in the range 2C to 4.5C” (para 36) and on future climate predictions we have this:

    The IPCC’s best estimate was that globallyaveraged surface temperatures would be between 2.5 – 4.7C higher by 2100 compared to pre-industrial levels.

    The Royal Society report, in following the published IPCC AR4 takes no account of any science published after June 2006.

    See also:
    Climate Progress on Climate sensitivity

    Skeptical Science on same

    Robyn Williams’ interview with Bob Ward